This is my first post to Tribe.net from a Dvorak keyboard, but not the last; I'm finally committing to full-time Dvorak usage. Got out the Sharpie and relabled all the keys, printed up a keyboard chart, now I just need practice time (badly: from "Got" to here took 2.5 minutes, but I'm on my way).
~Sam
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Re: Taking the plunge...
Sun, February 22, 2004 - 12:45 PMI'm proud of you. :)
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Re: Taking the plunge...
Sun, February 22, 2004 - 6:44 PMHey, not bad, that's what like 10wpm? ;)
Your fingers will thank you for it, once they've adjusted. And you'll find yourself typing at a bearable rate sooner than you'd think. -
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Re: Taking the plunge...
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 12:06 AMYeah about that... :-D I've already noticed some small speed improvements, and one thing that has struck me is how infrenquently my hands come off home row. I've been seeing recently how much reaching I have to do on a QWERTY; I just typed "westernized", which requires 10 keys on the outer rows, as opposed to the Dvorak which requires only 3. Heh, I'm already wishing I'd learned this a long time ago. :)
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Re: Taking the plunge...
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 6:33 AMYeah, one of the big things that really shocked me was that certain words just sort of fly out of your hands. I don't remember the exact statistic, but there's a large number of words in the dictionary that can be typed without moving your fingers from the home row.
death
teeth
hat
nuts
neato
hoot
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Re: Taking the plunge...
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 3:41 PMI've seen figures as high as 250,000. -
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Re: Taking the plunge...
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 5:00 PMHehehe ... such a number doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Looking at the _percentage_ of words in a given corpus of text (this could be the word list of a dictionary, but a text you'd actually type would be even more useful) would be useful information. Actually, I could write a script that calculates such a percentage in a snap. If anyone posts a link to some text (at least 100kb, preferably a book) to analyze for a Dvorak and QWERTY homerow-ness quotient, I'll do it ;-) -
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Re: Taking the plunge...
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 5:22 PMLooks like this person might be one step ahead of you... :)
www.acm.vt.edu/~jmaxwell/...rePage.html
I found some other interesting sites on a google search for "dvorak home row words", including this one:
www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/counts.html
which has some more word comparisons. Dvorak rocks.
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extremely good link, thanks
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 6:58 PMi knew there were various statistics on the dvorak layout out there, but wasn't aware of one counting 'homerow words'. unfortunately, the applet doesn't do that, but then the statistics it does compute are more useful.
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Re: Taking the plunge...
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 7:22 PMIf you still wanna try your hand at that script, Cory Doctorow has made both of his full-length novels available for free download under the Creative Commons licence. You can grab the recently published _Eastern Standard Tribe_ here:
craphound.com/est/download.php
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LOL
Mon, February 23, 2004 - 8:53 PMIt's funny you mention that ... when I made my last but one post, I had a look at my data/text/book/novel directory and chose Eastern Standard Tribe as something I could copy a dozen pages over to the Java Applet to test it. After being busy with other things for a while, I noticed the directory still being open and began to read EST, I'm about 1/3 through it now. It's 0550 now, 2 hours until I have to start working, so I guess that'll be a hard day, but the book's worth it.
With suitable statistics and software still existing, I'd find it too boring to write a little Java program, which would be what I could do really quickly. But when I have some time and feel bored, I might try if I can do it with two or three lines of shell script, bringing my bash skills up to speed would do me good.
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